Приглашаем Ваше предприятие к взаимовыгодному сотрудничеству в направлении производства и поставки никелевого сплава

Thank you, Ken.

Приглашаем Ваше предприятие к взаимовыгодному сотрудничеству в сфере производства и поставки никелевого сплава

David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Good evening...





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
JC...Your dad lives in idaho...what state do you live in?





JC @JC 11d
Hello! I just moved to the Washington Peninsula





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
WOW! Is there any chance you will join him for the TRT run event?





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Hi Jerry...how are you?





JC @JC 11d
I'm looking into it for sure!





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Really...it would be great. We have a great station and it's loads of fun.





JC @JC 11d
He always talks about how great it is for sure





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Hey, David. And JC. Been better. Couple of bad days. I will punch out of it soon. Got one of the meds I have been waiting to come in. It should help get my blood sugar back down.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Hello all





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Still ambulatory and driving okay, so that is all good.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Glad to hear you got the meds...Hope you get to "dancing" soon





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Man, me, too.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Hey Keith. I think.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Ken...Possible question #1...what benefits will "packet" radio play in the event of an emergency?





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Hi Keith





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Glad you could make it, you always add so much to the discussion. Keith





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Keith...we had snow two days in a row...Tell me Idaho is warmer!





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Since not too many people are geared up for packet it would make a good control channel for leadership people.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Hit 87 yesterday and 84 today. Too hot.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
We had a couple of those days over the weekend here in Winnemucca. Hit me like a ton of bricks.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Like walking into a wall when I went outside.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Ken...Question #2 - We've discussed chickens and rabbits as good prepper animals...what others should be considered and why





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Had 2 inches this morning, but all gone by 10:30





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Snow is pretty much gone up here, but now comes the road repairs and such and then onto preparing for the next winter. But right now spring and summer are absolutely beautiful. Rivers running very high.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
If there is a group that can provide the breeding stock and keep the genetics viable I would say a milk cow. It does take quite a bit of infrastructure however, with needing to be freshened every year, birthing the calf, and doing without the milk for those months between breeding and delivery.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I would say pigs would be the next best choice until a group could support a milk cow.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Heat changing so quickly is very toiugh.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Sounding good on the link on the computer.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Quail, guinnie (sp) hens. Protein, eggs and security sirens. Worms for fishing, improving ground and feeding the birds.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Ken's not available...I've got th net tonight...





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Those with packet will have an advantage over those that do not with the reliability and clarity that packet can make possible. Less traffic interference I believe. Certainly not an absolute, but better than many of the alternatives.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Good points, Keith.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 11d
Hi everyone





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I tend to think of the main stock animals such as chickens, pigs, milk cow, beef cattle.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Hey David.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Hey Stacie.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Gotta keep the birds fed during winter. No bugs to forage on unless you set up your own bug growing facility.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
Hi everyone





Stacie @KJ7RNN 11d
Hi Jerry and everyone!





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I think, with a vertical grow aquaponics greenhouse, worm beds, and rabbit hutches bugs could also be herded and kept for the various other birds and such. Year round.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
I like the stock animals also as I grew up on a cattle ranch. Need to add goats to list on animals as well as sheep. Cows take up a large area, also include horses for work and travel. People with smaller places can make do with milk and meat goats and sheep.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I know. I just do not like goats or sheep. We had both a couple of times when I was growing up on the tiny homestead. They were so much work for so little gain.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
That is a really good idea about vertical growing





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Of course we had two milk cows that were serviced by one or the other of a couple of our friends with bulls. 25 or so chickens, usually two runt piglets we got from our landlord who was a cattle and pig farmer and always had a few that would not make it without special care.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Pygmy goats can produce a gallon or more of milk per day. Being a beef cattleman I must admit I really hate milking animals twice a day.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I think the combination of a good greenhouse, vertical grow system as part of an aquaponics system with the rabbits and worms completing the circuit.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I was too young to have to milk. I was the chicken herder and dog feeder and waterer.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Rabbits give you protein and fertilizer which will keep the worms happy and thus happy and full chickens.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Kilo Seven Kilo Kilo X-ray Jerry in Winnemucca.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
Anyone have any experience driving a Sandpoint well?





Peaceful Companion @guest1283464 11d
Hi K6ST





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
That is for sure. And worms are a treat for the fish, as well. I believe that a chicken coop can be build against the greenhouse with limited access to the garden for bug control. A large protected run plus a couple of chicken tractors to essentially free range the chickens.





Peaceful Companion @guest1283464 11d
K6ST-Barry





Peaceful Companion @guest1283464 11d
Is Ken here





Stacie @KJ7RNN 11d
Ken is out of town this week.





Peaceful Companion @guest1283464 11d
K6ST-Barry





Peaceful Companion @guest1283464 11d
ok





Peaceful Companion @guest1283464 11d
I will check i with a couple of questions





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Did a bunch in southeast Missouri. First by hand and then my father build a mechanical driver that made it much easier. We went to 2" wells after he made the driver where before 1 1/4" was about all we could manage. We did a couple of 2" driven wells by hand and it nearly killed us both.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
We found a really high quality point that had features that made it much better than the standard points with the screen on the outside of the pipe. I will find a link and post it in chat on [font=Varela Round !important]nnpg.net[/font] chat.[font=Varela Round !important]

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Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
My chickens overnight in a conex for bear protection. During the day they are free to roam.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
I've been trying for a couple days. Hitting sandstone (I believe) about 6 feet down. I can't figure out how to get through it. I've pounded and pounded and nothing. Tried an earth auger to drill down a bit and got stuck at the same point with that too.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I will also post my articles and drawings of that driver and the method we used to jet PVC wells.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
I'm in water about three feet down, so it'll work until late summer. But it won't be reliable. Lol





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
When you drive a point into sand it is like gripping the pipe in a vice that has sandpaper on the jaws. It locks it up tight. It takes lot of hammering to get through it. Or, perhaps switching to jetting the point in.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
I'll check the forum and see what else you post Jerry.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Nor safe. Water that shallow will have all kinds of stuff in it.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
Exactly. We just use it for bathing, not ingesting in any way though.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Okay. I will put up all my water and wells articles before next Wednesday. I will try to get it up tomorrow.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Ah. That is not so bad. What has the draw been?





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
I haven't actually tried pulling from the well yet. We've been pulling water straight out of the creek for the last year.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I tend to agree, Johann. More people will have analog than any other mode. CW would work if you hand send. Given power a Morse generator reader would help, I think. Part of it depends on the goal of the conversation is. Some things need to be as private as possible. Some of it needs to be heard by as many people as possible.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Okay. Got it. Is the creek close enough to where the well needs to be to provide water to use to jet a point in?





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Actually pulling from a tank is better so the water can be recycled the easiest.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Which is needed to get enough clays in the water to help seal the hole as it goes down. Long enough to get the pipe and point to the bottom of the hole.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
Yeah. We have surface water maybe 20ft from where the well is going.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Did you dowse the property for the location for the well?





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
No, just went to the lowest point that is easily accessible, and where I know there is water year round because I dug a hole 🤣





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Oh. With surface water right there just about any location should be adequate. We just had a policy that if we dowsed we guaranteed a minimum of 5-gallons of water or more. If it was lesss we did not charge them.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
That works, too. lol





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Dousing for water is pretty accurate if done by someone who knows what they are doing. My Dad always said he did not believe in it, but boy could he find the water with a willow fork.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Yep. In over 500 wells we put in after I started dowsing we did not have a single failue. Cannot say the same for the 50 or so that we put in before I began to dowse.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
That's really cool.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
Jerry has the touch!





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Thank you!





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
I'll check the forum in a couple days for your info. I think jetting might work. If that doesn't I'm about to the point that I'm going to dig a huge hole down to whatever I'm hitting and go at it with a pickaxe. That should keep me busy for a few days. Hah





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
You would not believe the stuff I have found myself doing.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 11d
It is truly amazing the things that we now deny in our tech world that really worked back in the day.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Beg, borrow, or ... a small rotortiller to break the gound up for easy shoveling. Be sure to have plenty of ventilation, though.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Yep. My father doubted the dowsing, but after went back and checked some of the wells already in and those that showed being in a stream were the good ones and those went in between streams might have had water but the quantity was much less. He was convinced.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Okay. I found the article about driving steel points and the links are still valid that show the good drive couplings, drive caps, and the points we used. I will get it up right after this net.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
Awesome





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
I am pretty sure I can find the jetting article pretty quickly, too.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
After you look at the material and have any questions you can PM me on [font=Varela Round !important]nnpg.net[/font] and I will give you my phone number so you can call for clarifications.[font=Varela Round !important]

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K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Those swap meets are fantastic! Go if you can.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Wish I could get down to it. I need a new HF radio since the one I had was stolen and not much luck finding it or any of the other things taken.





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
Sounds good. I'll check it all out tomorrow. I have to go get some sleep, it's almost midnight and I can barely keep my eyes open anymore. This getting old thing sucks!





W7LTE @W7LTE 11d
Gnight y'all!





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
Understood. Yeah, but it sure beats the only alternative!





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
CW is the best weak signal mode.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 11d
While not as good as a good ear and good hand for receiving and transmitting the CW (Morse Code), using a box that reads the signal and displays the letters and the box that takes keystrokes and converts them to the Morse Code and sends it to the transmitter.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 10d
Like any electronic system, these converters, as good as they are, just simply cannot do quite as well interpreting a a weak signal Morse code CW signal.





K7KKX - Jerry D Young @K7KKX 10d
Good night all.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 10d
Goodnight Everyone. Stay safe until next week.





JC @JC 10d
Good night everyone!





David - K7DWW @k7dww 10d
Good night everyone!





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Hi JC





JC @JC 4d
Hello!





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Ken...Possible question #1 for tonight...We are using our ham radios tonight to participate in the net. however, there are lots of listeners that are novices to prepping and to radio communicaions. Can someone take a minute to explain the differences between CB, FRS, GMRS and HF and the benefits.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Ken...possible question #2 - What are the steps or the process you would recommend someone new to prepping should take.





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
Hi Jamie





JC @JC 4d
Hi dad!





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Hi Keith...





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
How are you enjoying your fortress of solitude?





JC @JC 4d
It's great. I organized all the tools you got me as well as my bug out gear today





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
Hello David, Are you set up to do digital on your computer for TRT?





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
Great, you are learning quickly





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
Mom and I spent all day in a ICS 400 class and will do it again tomorrow.





JC @JC 4d
Always good to retake that class





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
Arrggg, it is soooo long and mostly boring, but have to know the stuff.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Still need to order the one piece, but will do that when money is available later this month.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Ken...Questions ok?





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
You may want to touch bases with Bob Miller to make sure you have everything. Have you joined ARES down there?





JC @JC 4d
David, as a newbie to all of this, I am really interested in the questions you proposed





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Good to hear JC...





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
David makes great questions, too bad I can't answer them.





JC @JC 4d
You can totally answer them!





Idaho70 @Idaho70 4d
Shhhhhhhhhhh, don't tell anybody but the answer person is Mom.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Trust me JC...he can answer them





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Ken...are questions ok and are you going to announce them?





K7KBJ @kjuenke 4d
really busy here.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Do you want me to take the net?





K7KBJ @kjuenke 4d
no





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
OK





K7KBJ @kjuenke 4d
I might ask something else.





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
OK





K7IN - Paul @K7IN 4d
I have UHF capability on ham and GMRS including licenses. I have full FRS capability on the same radio with the appropriate power limitations, all HF bands, and 2m VHF. My VHF and UHF radios are part 90 certified for commercial use as well as ham. However, in an emergency situation, most of the rules do not apply when there are urgent matters that require being on the air.





K7KBJ @kjuenke 4d
Good stuff Paul !





FriendlySelf @guest512 4d
David cut the bottom out of a large plastic bottle put some wire on the bottom to anchor it in the ground. this acts like a mini green house. when the sun is out just unscrew the top for ventilation





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
Outstanding...thanks a ton!





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
JC...I have some presentations with answers to my questions...If you could send your e-Mail address to [font=Varela Round !important]dwager1@att.net[/font], I will send you information.





JC @JC 4d
Thanks for all the advice on the garden and high winds. I've definitely noticed where I live it gets super windy so once I get my garden going that will all be super helpful





JC @JC 4d
Cool! I'll do that now, thank you!





David - K7DWW @k7dww 4d
If you want more than what I send you now, just ask...I have lots more.





JC @JC 4d
Thanks! Keith has told me you have SO much knowledge so I appreciate all the guidance!

Wednesday's session of the Northern Nevada Preppers Group Net has been posted.
We talked about End Of Winter Garden Chores.


Here's your link:  http://nnpg.net/051023_radio.shtml