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Offline Jerry D Young

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Bug in versus bug out
« on: December 22, 2016, 12:21:24 PM »
Since I could not make the attachments work in the radio net thread, and I can here, I have attached a couple of articles about my thoughts on when to bug in and when to bug out. Also the Disaster List that K7DWW mentioned. (It is up to 205 things that I consider when making prepping decisions.

Everything is just my opinion.
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Jerry D Young

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best, and always remember TANSTAAFL

(TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch - Robert A. Heinlein)

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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2016, 11:38:14 AM »
Although my function is to maintain the BOL (retreat), bug out trigger criteria are a real concern. Some have very clear triggers, some are close enough that this is not so critical, but some are deep into normalcy bias and they worry me.     
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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2016, 11:30:50 AM »
I don't plan on bugging  out except... when I open my front door, I am looking at a forest. My home is on a hill that has a pretty good drop off near my east property line. The hill is limestone and I am going to explorer the face of that drop-off looking for the rumored cave. There was a good well in that area until those stronger earthquakes in Oklahoma a few weeks ago. Now my well is dry so I purchased a couple of those 275 gallon water cubes and will buy 1-2 more until I can find a way to drill a new well without a permit. I do have city water but back up is essential.
Russ
« Last Edit: December 26, 2016, 04:43:11 AM by xoruss »
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Offline 230gr

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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2016, 12:26:05 PM »
Good idea to have a back up beyond city water. I have had to pull my well pipe and replace the sand point once and it was a major pain. My well was only 28 feet deep too.

My last resort would be the Trout Stream about 1/2 mile away. The water is clear and icy cold but I know that are beaver up stream so it is going the need to be treated. I have been reading up on shooting & eating beaver for a SHTF protein supplement. 
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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2016, 12:33:45 PM »
   The Missouri River is only 1/4 mile away down the hill from home. Its the uphill return carrying water that would be a problem.
Russ
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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2016, 01:03:10 PM »
We are relatively flat here and the stream is just off a back road on a pull off for the fishermen. I have a 500 lb load wagon with pneumatic tires that would hold 2 square 5 gal containers that should work out fine. I just hope we don't need them.
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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2016, 01:15:00 PM »
   I have the "Jerry D Young approved" 750 LB cart and CAN haul the water but my old body won't like coming back uphill because it is all downhill from where I live and uphill coming back.
Russ
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Offline Jerry D Young

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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2016, 01:25:07 PM »
230gr and xoruss, I think it would really be worth the effort and expense to have everything ready to rig a trolley line to retrieve the water carts. Not that difficult, nor all that expensive to rig for 100 gallons or less. Some good, stout, long anchors stakes, couple of good pulleys with attachment rings, and appropriate rope. I figure both of you can figure out whether you need a gun, luff, or double tackle rig. Even a simple laundry line rig might work for you, xoruss, since you said it is pretty flat.

Either way, making a simple mechanical winch drum powered by hand, AC or DC electric motor, or gasoline/propane/diesel engine, could be used to run the water trolley back and forth.

Just my opinion.
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Jerry D Young

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best, and always remember TANSTAAFL

(TANSTAAFL - There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch - Robert A. Heinlein)

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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2016, 03:38:48 PM »
Interesting idea.
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Offline xoruss

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Re: Bug in versus bug out
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 04:50:58 AM »
Jerry,
  That has given me something to think about. I also remembered there is also an old home across the street with a well that I need to check out.
Russ
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