Essentials Of Prepping - Energy

[Ken K7KBJ]

Last night's session of the Northern Nevada Preppers Group Net has been posted.
Continuing our Essentials Of Prepping Series, we discussed Energy.

Here's your link: http://www.nnpg.net/110916_radio.shtml

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7:40:40 PM
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Ken K7KBJ
Tonight's Topic is Energy. Cooking, power, heat, etc.
Tonight's Topic is Energy. Cooking, power, heat, etc.
7:57:39 PM
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KG7MZO
boo beep be doo
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8:00:01 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Hi Jefferson !
Tonight's Topic is Energy. Cooking, power, heat, etc.
8:01:00 PM
Jefferson
Nice. I'm just going to listen in and not chat much in here. It is hard to do both! Gotta cook some dinner. Thanks for having me.
8:01:18 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Glad you're here !
We like listeners too !
8:01:34 PM
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8:01:40 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Hi Rob!
Tonight's Topic is Energy. Cooking, power, heat, etc.
buk buk buk
8:02:13 PM
K9RVM
Hi Ken. Excellent topic tonight
8:02:35 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Right off Glenda's list. :-)
8:17:02 PM
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TWP
Hi All
8:17:42 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Hi TWP !
Tonight's Topic is Energy. Cooking, power, heat, etc.
Hi Rick !!
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8:18:25 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Ok, Bye Rick !
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8:18:29 PM
TWP
Hope Rick comes back.
8:19:15 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Damn, I was typing, Did Jerry just mention Nickel Iron batteries ?
8:22:17 PM
TWP
Bio-fuels need Lye, which can be obtained from wood ash.
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8:23:17 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Hi KI7HVB !
Welcome to the net !
And to the hobby !
8:24:42 PM
KI7HVB
Thank you!
Does anyone have any information about the legality of mobile radio station use while driving?
8:26:14 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Yes. Email me and I'll fill you in.
My email address is k7kbj@arrl.net
8:26:37 PM
KI7HVB
alrighty
8:26:52 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Basically, it's ok as long as you use a microphone with only a push to talk button.
Some of us use bluetooth headsets
It is certainly NOT illegal
8:31:23 PM
TWP
Libraries are still alive and well in Reno. I use them frequently. They have wireless access, free.
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TWP
I got through off...
Perhaps a timeout problem
"thrown....
8:42:04 PM
Jefferson
A thing I learned about living without refrigeration: if you have food in a pot, like a soup or gravy or whatever, as long as you bring it to a boil everyday you should be fine. I learned about that from The Book of Household Management written in the 1850's. I've been experimenting with several pots of beans, just keeping it for a week by heating it up to boiling everyday, and I haven't gotten sick yet, LOL.
8:43:01 PM
TWP
Jefferson, we do that with the crockpot, daily reheat and new ingredients.
8:44:46 PM
K9RVM
You're the first person that has had practical experience doing that I've heard from. Interesting that it doesn't build up any bacteria in the food. I would have thought otherwise.
8:46:03 PM
Jefferson
I think the boiling kills the bad stuff in the pot. A pot of food might last 4 or 5 days, so I'm not sure about going longer than that.
8:46:28 PM
TWP
It CAN go back if you miss a reheat cycle. Smell and texture are a good clue about how trustworthy it is. Taste will show sour flavor too.
8:46:31 PM
KG7MZO
I have never heard of that either. Does it matter if there's dairy in the ingredients?
8:46:36 PM
Jefferson
TWP I have a goal of always having a crock pot going, but I don't take the time
8:47:32 PM
TWP
KG7MZO, I use dairy in my "soups", no problem if they are heated to boiling, regularly
8:47:42 PM
K9RVM
For winter camp we'll be adding cast iron open fire cooking. I may have to try that and feed it to Ken over the weekend to see if he gets sick or not. I'm interested in trying that.
8:48:08 PM
Jefferson
Ha!
8:48:18 PM
TWP
Always good to have a food taster...
8:48:19 PM
KG7MZO
Ken will eat it. Ken eats anything!
8:49:48 PM
TWP
Jefferson, lots of recipes on the 'net for crockpot meals. "slumgullion" means just about anything can go in the pot.
8:49:52 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Dang right !!!
....buuuuurrrp
8:50:08 PM
K9RVM
I also need to find one of the stoves we saw at PrepperCon and get it into the preps. I keep looking for one second hand but they aren't being sold too often at a reasonable price.
8:50:14 PM
KG7MZO
Excuse you
8:51:02 PM
TWP
Good on Ken.
8:52:37 PM
K9RVM
I've use the manual washer in the preps and it's amazing how well it cleans. I put in some really dirty jeans and shirt in it and they came out better than a regular washer for little effort and soap.
8:52:57 PM
KG7MZO
I was curious about those too
Good to know they work, I'll look into getting one, especially with this teenager in the house
8:53:38 PM
K9RVM
I also have a washboard in the preps but never tried it.... I sorta hope I never have to get to that level.
8:54:17 PM
TWP
Teenager = "free" labor
8:54:32 PM
K9RVM
https://www.amazon.com/Laundry-Alternative-Wonderwash-Non-electric-Portable/dp/B002C8HR9A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478753655&sr=8-1&keywords=manual+washing+machine
8:54:37 PM
KG7MZO
nothing is free.
teenagers come with a lot of complaining and griping about doing stuff
8:55:25 PM
K9RVM
lol
8:56:00 PM
TWP
If they want to eat (payment) they get to work... You can always keep them in the garage.
8:56:05 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Rob, that's the exact washer I saw today while I was looking for ping pong ball washers !!!
8:56:45 PM
K9RVM
it works like a champ. there is one in storage if you want to try it out. great for long term camping too.
there's a washboard in storage as well if you want to get crazy and give that a shot as well
8:58:47 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Might be fun to have a washboard at a camp out to try, test and show
8:58:52 PM
TWP
There are easy plans for using a 5 gallon bucket and a toilet plunger for washing cloths
8:59:09 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Hey, TWP, that sounds cool !
8:59:15 PM
K9RVM
that's not a bad idea. might be worth bringing out.
9:00:11 PM
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9:00:27 PM
TWP
http://www.survivopedia.com/diy-bucket-washer/
Many other 5 gallon washers on the 'net
9:01:58 PM
K9RVM
steam punk washer........
9:02:00 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Cool link!
Absolutely !
9:02:11 PM
Jefferson
Goodnight all. Good info TWP and everyone else...
9:02:21 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Imagine getting it copper plated !
9:02:20 PM
K9RVM
goodnight sir
9:02:29 PM
Ken K7KBJ
See ya Jefferson!
9:02:38 PM
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9:02:47 PM
TWP
With copper piping around the bucket
9:03:06 PM
KI7HVB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJC4ngQvQNY
9:05:40 PM
TWP
All hail the Overseer
9:06:16 PM
KI7HVB
great net! goodnight everyone
9:06:38 PM
K9RVM
goodnight
great job Glenda!
9:07:31 PM
KG7MZO
Goodnight Rob

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[Jerry D Young]

Thanks Ken.

Great job in chat everyone.

Just my opinion.

[WolfBrother]

WB edited to specific:

8:42:04 PM
Jefferson
A thing I learned about living without refrigeration: if you have food in a pot, like a soup or gravy or whatever, as long as you bring it to a boil everyday you should be fine. I learned about that from The Book of Household Management written in the 1850's. I've been experimenting with several pots of beans, just keeping it for a week by heating it up to boiling everyday, and I haven't gotten sick yet, LOL.
8:43:01 PM
TWP
Jefferson, we do that with the crockpot, daily reheat and new ingredients.
8:44:46 PM
K9RVM
You're the first person that has had practical experience doing that I've heard from. Interesting that it doesn't build up any bacteria in the food. I would have thought otherwise.
8:46:03 PM
Jefferson
I think the boiling kills the bad stuff in the pot. A pot of food might last 4 or 5 days, so I'm not sure about going longer than that.
8:46:28 PM
TWP
It CAN go back if you miss a reheat cycle. Smell and texture are a good clue about how trustworthy it is. Taste will show sour flavor too.
8:46:31 PM
KG7MZO
I have never heard of that either. Does it matter if there's dairy in the ingredients?
8:46:36 PM
Jefferson
TWP I have a goal of always having a crock pot going, but I don't take the time
8:47:32 PM
TWP
KG7MZO, I use dairy in my "soups", no problem if they are heated to boiling, regularly
8:47:42 PM
K9RVM
For winter camp we'll be adding cast iron open fire cooking. I may have to try that and feed it to Ken over the weekend to see if he gets sick or not. I'm interested in trying that.
8:48:08 PM
Jefferson
Ha!
8:48:18 PM
TWP
Always good to have a food taster...
8:48:19 PM
KG7MZO
Ken will eat it. Ken eats anything!
8:49:48 PM
TWP
Jefferson, lots of recipes on the 'net for crockpot meals. "slumgullion" means just about anything can go in the pot.
8:49:52 PM
Ken K7KBJ
Dang right !!!
....buuuuurrrp
8:50:08 PM
K9RVM
I also need to find one of the stoves we saw at PrepperCon and get it into the preps. I keep looking for one second hand but they aren't being sold too often at a reasonable price.
8:50:14 PM
KG7MZO
Excuse you
8:51:02 PM
TWP
Good on Ken.
8:52:37 PM

There is a historical basis to this - the oldest printed recipe in England:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pease_Porridge_Hot

Pease porridge hot, pease porridge cold,
Pease porridge in the pot, nine days old;
Some like it hot, some like it cold,
Some like it in the pot, nine days old.[3][4]

Origin
The origins of this rhyme are unknown. The name refers to a type of porridge made from peas, pease pudding, also known in Middle English as pease pottage. ("Pease" was treated as a mass noun, similar to "oatmeal", and the singular "pea" and plural "peas" arose by back-formation.)

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British Food in America
A note on pease pudding, or, mariners’ fare in the seventeenth century.

Pease pudding, or pease pottage and sometimes peas porridge, is one of the oldest recipes printed in English and also one of the most prevalent dishes eaten at sea in the seventeenth century. . . . . .

For full article - http://www.britishfoodinamerica.com/Our-First-Nautical-Number/the-practical/A-note-on-pease-pudding-or-mariners-fare-in-the-seventeenth-century/