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A list of medical books you might want to have/read/study before bad times happen.
OK - MY OPINION - If you work thru this list, in the order it appears, you will obtain a broad range of good medical knowledge, starting with the basics then working up.
However, without training and practice.................
Remember, a BOOK a COOK does not make.
If you have time/money etc - take the Red Cross 1st Aid courses, join a CERT team, GET TRAINING.
NEW VERSION - THIS POST UPDATED 12/30/2017
Survival and Austere Medicine: An introduction V3
https://www.ausprep.org/manuals (https://www.ausprep.org/manuals)
Where There Is No Doctor
Where There Is No Dentist
http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/ (http://hesperian.org/books-and-resources/)
The Ship Captain's Medical Guide
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-ship-captains-medical-guide (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-ship-captains-medical-guide)
2007 Ranger Medic Handbook
http://www.patriotresistance.com/Ranger_Medic_Handbook_2007_1_.pdf (http://www.patriotresistance.com/Ranger_Medic_Handbook_2007_1_.pdf)
Special Operations Forces Medical Handbook (Book Only Edition) (Ring-bound)
http://www.amazon.com/Special-Operations-Forces-Medical-Handbook/dp/1893441547/ (http://www.amazon.com/Special-Operations-Forces-Medical-Handbook/dp/1893441547/)
AND NOW:
Special Operations Forces Medical Handbook, 2nd Edition (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Special-Operations-Forces-Medical-Handbook/dp/0160808960/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257352684&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Special-Operations-Forces-Medical-Handbook/dp/0160808960/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257352684&sr=8-2)
I have both (including the 1st edition companion CD).
The 1st. has stuff the 2nd does not have.
The 2nd. has stuff the 1st does not have.
If you can affort it - my opinion - get both.
HOWEVER, the original Special Force's medical guide was completely supplanted by the SOF medical handbook noted above. The following are some quotes about the original SF manual:
"That manual is a relic of sentimental and historical interest only, advocating treatments that, if used by today’s medics, would result in disciplinary measures,” wrote Dr. Warner Anderson, a U.S. Army Colonel (ret.) and former associate dean of the Special Warfare Medical Group. “The manual you reference is of great historical importance in illustrating the advances made in SOF medicine in the past 25 years. But it no more reflects current SOF practice than a 25 year-old Merck Manual reflects current Family Practice. In 2007, it is merely a curiosity.”
“Readers who use some of the tips and remedies could potentially cause harm to themselves or their patients.”
In order to use this manual, you would have to already know what is still useful vs what isn't. I have a copy, it's a fascinating read, especially the parts that are in there that "would result in disciplinary measures".
Fundamental Skills in Surgery [Hardcover]
By Thomas F. Nealon, William H. Nealon
http://www.amazon.com/Fundamental-Skills-Surgery-Thomas-Nealon/dp/0721664601/ (http://www.amazon.com/Fundamental-Skills-Surgery-Thomas-Nealon/dp/0721664601/)
ISBN-13 : 9780721664606
Binding : Hardcover
Pages : 468
Publisher : W.B. Saunders Company
Fundamental Skills for Surgery
Richard Perry
http://www.amazon.com/Fundamental-Skills-Surgery-Iain-Skinner/dp/0074713353/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232219859&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Fundamental-Skills-Surgery-Iain-Skinner/dp/0074713353/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232219859&sr=1-2)
ISBN13: 9780074713358,
ISBN10: 0074713353,
Division: Professional,
Pub Date: OCT-08,
Pages: 320
Edition: 02
Two sources
Ditch Medicine
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2205119/Ditch-Medicine-Advanced-Field-Procedures-For-Emergencies-1993 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/2205119/Ditch-Medicine-Advanced-Field-Procedures-For-Emergencies-1993)
Ditch Medicine: Advanced Field Procedures For Emergencies (Paperback)
http://www.amazon.com/Ditch-Medicine-Advanced-Procedures-Emergencies/dp/1581603908/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232743604&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Ditch-Medicine-Advanced-Procedures-Emergencies/dp/1581603908/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232743604&sr=1-1)
Hugh Coffee
ISBN-10: 1581603908
ISBN-13: 978-1581603903
ALL of the following books are in use over the world by those who are not necessarily trained in surgery to perform any number of surgeries.
[Begin_My_Opinion]
These 3 books are in the “Buy these to round out your already extensive Medical Library” category.
They are a bit pricey. The wikipedia source for copy/paste into Word/Print is incomplete.
[End_My_Opinion]
Primary Surgery: Non-Trauma v.1: Non-Trauma Vol 1 (Paperback)
by Maurice King (Editor), Peter C. Bewes (Editor), James Cairns (Editor), Jim Thornton (Editor)
Paperback: 656 pages
Publisher: OUP Oxford; New edition edition (14 Jun 1990)
Language English
ISBN-10: 0192616943
ISBN-13: 978-0192616944
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Primary-Surgery-Non-Trauma-v-1-Vol/dp/0192616943 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Primary-Surgery-Non-Trauma-v-1-Vol/dp/0192616943)
Trauma: 2 (Primary Surgery) (Paperback)
by Maurice H. King (Author)
Paperback: 381 pages
Publisher: OUP Oxford (22 Jan 1987)
Language English
ISBN-10: 019261598X
ISBN-13: 978-0192615985
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trauma-Primary-Maurice-H-King/dp/019261598X/ref=pd_sim_b_1/275-9104060-8185224 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Trauma-Primary-Maurice-H-King/dp/019261598X/ref=pd_sim_b_1/275-9104060-8185224)
Primary Anaesthesia (Primary Surgery) (Paperback)
by Maurice H. King (Author)
Paperback: 288 pages
Publisher: OUP Oxford (19 Jun 1986)
Language English
ISBN-10: 0192615920
ISBN-13: 978-0192615923
One additional book suggested by one whom I know to be knowledgeable. I do not have the book nor have I read it.
It is on my list to get books.
Atlas of Minor Surgery
I.D. Cracknell & M.G. Mead
http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Minor-Surgery-Ian-Cracknell/dp/0443053049/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233412141&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Minor-Surgery-Ian-Cracknell/dp/0443053049/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233412141&sr=1-2)
Publisher: W.B. Saunders Company, 1 edition (June 1998)
ISBN-10: 0443053049
ISBN-13: 978-0443053047
Pages: 86
Available in German as well: http://www.amazon.com/Kleine-Chirurgie-Ian-D-Cracknell/dp/3456831315/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233412108&sr=1-3 (http://www.amazon.com/Kleine-Chirurgie-Ian-D-Cracknell/dp/3456831315/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233412108&sr=1-3)
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Great list. Thank you.
I note one link has been removed for "Ditch Medicine"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2205119/Ditch-Medicine-Advanced-Field-Procedures-For-Emergencies-1993
I did a search on "ditch medicine" and found this PDF:
http://www.webpal.org/SAFE/aaarecovery/7_medicine/Medicine%20-%20Severe/Ditch%20Medicine.pdf (http://www.webpal.org/SAFE/aaarecovery/7_medicine/Medicine%20-%20Severe/Ditch%20Medicine.pdf)
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Great list. Thank you.
I note one link has been removed for "Ditch Medicine"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2205119/Ditch-Medicine-Advanced-Field-Procedures-For-Emergencies-1993 (http://www.scribd.com/doc/2205119/Ditch-Medicine-Advanced-Field-Procedures-For-Emergencies-1993)
I did a search on "ditch medicine" and found this PDF:
http://www.webpal.org/SAFE/aaarecovery/7_medicine/Medicine%20-%20Severe/Ditch%20Medicine.pdf (http://www.webpal.org/SAFE/aaarecovery/7_medicine/Medicine%20-%20Severe/Ditch%20Medicine.pdf)
Apologies, I missed that one. I go thru the list every time before I post it again. I did update two URLs in the list before posting. Normally, stuff like that doesn't get by me.
The Senior Computer Nerd hangs his head in shame.
I will update my list with the .pdf you found. Thanks for finding it.
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The Senior Computer Nerd hangs his head in shame.
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;D You'll have to beat yourself up. It's about the worst that might happen here, we're a pretty nice bunch of people.
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Great list thanks for the time and effort that went into making it, and updating it.
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Great list thanks for the time and effort that went into making it, and updating it.
In all honesty, to me, it's not a big deal to do. I am a former .mil medic, a life member in SOMA, and feel that I should take the time to share what I know.
The list started years ago as a result of a discussion in a now defunct Remote, Austere, and Bush medicine forum. The members self published the first book in that list.
Survival and Austere Medicine: An introduction
The discussion was "What should we tell the non-medical types, when the ask about what they should know". The strongest critics of my list have been those who can't grasp that the muggles need a simple place to start with. My list ( along with the take the Red Cross 1st aid training) is what I see to be a logical progression for a non-medical type to start with.
Quite honestly, it is my pleasure, privilege, and honor to do the list.
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First, allow me to humbly introduce myself. I am Reasonable Rascal, contributing author to Survival and Austere Medicine: An Introduction.
I believe Wolfbrother can vouch for me, we've 'known' each other for a few years now.
Just wanted to update the members as say that the 3rd edition of SAM: An Intro is in the works and will hopefully be released before this coming spring. There have been several starts and stops but hopefully we will make it this time. One of the original authors (Goatlady) has since passed and Swedeglocker has long since moved on to other pastures but we have new blood working on it, and it promises to be a much-expanded edition worthy of your consideration.
RR
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First, allow me to humbly introduce myself. I am Reasonable Rascal, contributing author to Survival and Austere Medicine: An Introduction.
I believe Wolfbrother can vouch for me, we've 'known' each other for a few years now.
Just wanted to update the members as say that the 3rd edition of SAM: An Intro is in the works and will hopefully be released before this coming spring. There have been several starts and stops but hopefully we will make it this time. One of the original authors (Goatlady) has since passed and Swedeglocker has long since moved on to other pastures but we have new blood working on it, and it promises to be a much-expanded edition worthy of your consideration.
RR
Nope, won't do it, can't vouch for you . . . . . . . . . . or at least won't till you get your Medical focused PAW story written.
Seriously, glad to have you here. We have one of the premier PAW authors in residence. Jerry D. Young.
If you need any help with the 3rd edition, I'm in my third day of retirement.
I hate to hear that about Goatlady. Swedeglocker was .mil and moving on is somewhat expected.
What ever happened to Keith Brown (can't think of handle) who was doing those med trips to Belize and such?
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Reasonable Rascal
Welcome to NNPG and we are all waiting on your next book... ;D No pressure of course.
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Nope, won't do it, can't vouch for you . . . . . . . . . . or at least won't till you get your Medical focused PAW story written.
Seriously, glad to have you here. We have one of the premier PAW authors in residence. Jerry D. Young.
If you need any help with the 3rd edition, I'm in my third day of retirement.
I hate to hear that about Goatlady. Swedeglocker was .mil and moving on is somewhat expected.
What ever happened to Keith Brown (can't think of handle) who was doing those med trips to Belize and such?
Keith (Resqdoc) seems to have dropped off the face of the earth. Last was seen a few years back over on one of the SOCOM-type forums. I believe he may have undergone some life-altering events that included a building fire on his property and a major job change.
As far as the PAW I've decided to do it in 3 segments, the first one being almost ready for print after some minor tweaking (word here, a comma there, minor change in localities for background info somewhere else). The 2nd one is also written but needs much more tweaking, and there is some of the 3rd segment already written down as well. Looking at around 200 pages per segment. Lot of new material added and some changes to the overall story such that someone who was familiar with it from the beginning (15 years ago!) will find unfamiliar in places.
Right now I am looking for the right venue to put it out there in ebook land. I need all the help I can get. :o
RR
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WB Edited to specific:
Right now I am looking for the right venue to put it out there in ebook land. I need all the help I can get. :o
RR
Jerry - you might share some of your experience with RR. Thanks, WB
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RR, I have had decent luck putting my books up on Kindle. I did that for several years, and then was picked up by a startup publisher willint to do the print work and add much better covers than the basic two-color ones I was using. When the time comes, if you are interested in going into printed books, as well as epub, I can put you in contact with my guy. Of course, you can also use Amazon Create Space, which seems to be working okay now. Early on it was somewhat problematical.
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Time to add a little update for the members here.
In the last edition of SAM the top runners for basic must-have books for the medically uninitiated were the Where There Is No Doctor/Dentist books we are all familiar with.
I am amidst the update to the references section and have elected to change the recommendations for both of those to lower order recommends.
In their place I am recommending newer books. For basic medical care the winner is Wilderness and Survival Medicine 2014: 2nd Edition. The authors are Chris Breen and Craig Ellis, M.D. Rather than a how-to it offers some definitive treatment information, considerations and descriptions of conditions, and a wealth of general info even an experienced medical type might find useful. It is not an end-all sort of book but definitely supersedes WTIND in scope with a non-medical person in mind. Hence the higher recommend.
For dentistry there is Emergency Dental Handbook: Providing Dental Care in Disaster Areas, Combat Zones and Other Austere Environments by Met Clark, EMT-P. Definitely more oriented to modern dental technique and reflective of the basic tools even preppers can access. Only 90 pages yet he manages to toss in very good drug info, 3 different field kit recommendations depending on your mission profile, and how to perform basic dental procedures.
Thought I'd offer something potentially useful to the discussion, not that WB needs help; he's done a fine job of it as it is.
RR
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Not that I cannot find them, but being the lazy cuss that I am, would you happen to have links to the new recommendations?
And thanks for checking things out for us.
Just my opinion.
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Not that I cannot find them, but being the lazy cuss that I am, would you happen to have links to the new recommendations?
And thanks for checking things out for us.
Just my opinion.
The were no' s are in my original post
The other two:
https://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Survival-Medicine-2014-2nd/dp/1493720031
https://www.amazon.com/Emergency-Dentistry-Handbook-Providing-Environments/dp/1610040449
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Thanks WB. Even the best of intentions don't always come off as planned.
RR
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Thank you Wolf Brother. You have allowed me to maintain my laziness.
Just my opinion.
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Thank you Wolf Brother. You have allowed me to maintain my laziness.
Just my opinion.
Not my intention, my intention is to do what I can to keep you writing.
It's one way that I'm being very selfish.
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I am doing that, too, actually. Hopefully A Penny For Your Thoughts will be out sooner rather than later.
Thanks Wolf Brother.
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Jerry, that would be a pure copper penny right? None of this copper plated zinc...
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Oh, this 'penny' is as pure as can be.
lol
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Wolfbrother mentioned Survival and Austere Medicine. You folks may be interested to know third edition is due out later this week. :-) Slightly larger than last time, 614 pages vs. I believe it was 212. As before the pdf version will be free, and the hard copies sold without royalties tacked on.
RR
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Rascal (LTNS)
Do you have a URL to that download?
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I will once it is released.
RR