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Re: Local Bacon Prices?
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2017, 09:36:05 AM »
Pat,
  If I had a herd of Angus, I wouldn't be eating pork.
Russ
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Re: Local Bacon Prices?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2017, 10:10:09 AM »
So what are store prices for Bacon in your areas?

Locally,  Reno NV
Smiths has 12-16 ounces at $3.99
Hormel Premium 12-16 oz $2.99
Farmer John Premium 12 oz $2.50

This is my source: http://www.grocerysmarts.com/nevada/lists/indexg89cjm.php?a89ll2

You can use the above link to find prices in your area too.

News Story: http://www.ktvn.com/story/34404317/pork-industry-says-not-to-worry-about-a-bacon-shortage

Don't Worry, Be Happy! ;D

Joke: Do you think the Strategic Port Reserve still has any Bacon in the vaults?  What happens when there is a run on Bacon by the investors?  Could we see Bacon riots?

Mothers, do you know where your Bacon is, right now?
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« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2017, 10:54:45 AM »
Pat,
  If I had a herd of Angus, I wouldn't be eating pork.
Russ

The family revolts if they have beef too many days in a row. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2017, 11:02:56 AM »
Widespread flooding kill a big part of China's pork this year and ruined their prime corn production lands. Coincidence?
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Re: Local Bacon Prices?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2017, 11:15:37 AM »
So will our (U.S.) pork producers be sending Bacon support packages to China?

Follow the money trail which could drive our local prices higher.

Would I take Beef or Port?  Tough call, as I like both.

I don't know which, Beef or Pork, is more economical to raise.  At the homestead level, I'd probably choose Pigs.
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« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2017, 12:48:01 PM »
So will our (U.S.) pork producers be sending Bacon support packages to China?

Follow the money trail which could drive our local prices higher.

Would I take Beef or Port?  Tough call, as I like both.

I don't know which, Beef or Pork, is more economical to raise.  At the homestead level, I'd probably choose Pigs.

In a SHTF one would want beef/dairy, pigs and chickens and possible rabbits as sources of protein.   If one is going to grow much grains or other crops that require the ground to be tilled one will need animal power.   Confining livestock into small areas is a way to fertilize a section of ground for future garden. 

The generation interval for pigs and chickens makes it easier to ramp up production if resources allow it.   

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« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2017, 03:11:37 PM »
Edited to specific:
The commodity price is pretty much controlled at the level of the commodity exchanges while Bacon prices are more of a local marketing tool to draw customers.

I acknowledge that the availability of Pork Bellies is a factor in final Bacon price.

I'd like to know how that local Bacon price is changing in various parts of the US.
Yup - didn't draw the distinction at first.
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2017, 08:49:18 AM »

Well, here is a long term solution to the bacon shortage. For years Wisconsin was just too far north for feral domestic pigs   then some genus decides it would be fun to hunt Russian boar here and they just scoff at our winters. They are big and mean too. Domestic hog breeders hate them as they will break into the sows enclosures and kill any domestic boar who objects.


Northern movement of wild pigs has hampered by cold weather. The article notes that with climate change, the pigs will likely move north in coming years….climate change may assist spread intonorthern regions by generating milder winters with less snow.



http://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/02/06/new-study-predicts-spread-wild-pigs/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2017-02-11&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter
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Re: Local Bacon Prices?
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2017, 09:15:25 AM »
Joking aside, California looks like one big "safe space" for feral swine.

And what's with that one county in Far North Dakota?  Wooly Swine?  I might suspect genetic modification to bring back an extinct specie...

Maybe joking, I don't see Washington DC indicated on the map...  Insert non-PC joke here.

I do hear that feral pork tastes much better than domestically raised hogs.

Once the feral swine herds reach a size big enough to start attacking railroad trains, there will be a call for "culling" and the price of Bacon should fall.

I can see a market for Feral Bacon, branded by State of origin and perhaps political affiliation.

Snowflake Bacon - The Other White Meat  (All kinds of politically incorrect)
Congressional Pork - Our Pork Barrels Are Just Bigger!
AllState Roadkill - Our Bacon Is PreFlattened For Easy Frying!
Berkeley Bacon - Smoked Over Burning Textbooks By Jobless Grad Students!

Feel free to pursue this meme as you desire...  The PC police will prosecute once The Judge is back from Boar hunting on their private estate.

Until this is picked up by the media, Bacon prices will remain unstable and expected to rise.

Do You Know Where Your Bacon Price Is Right Now?
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2017, 09:34:04 AM »
What is up with the map showing wild pigs in the UP of michigan and New Hampshire/vermont boarder?  Those are some tough pigs to be able to find food in those areas when there is multiple feet of snow.  I still remember several snow storms in the UP were snow fall was measured in 3 to 5 feet range before drifting.   

Texans should have plenty of pork in a shtf situation by hunting wild pigs.  The pigs might make it hard to raise food crops if not severely controled.
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Re: Local Bacon Prices?
« Reply #25 on: February 11, 2017, 11:19:33 AM »
What is up with the map showing wild pigs in the UP of michigan and New Hampshire/vermont boarder?  Those are some tough pigs to be able to find food in those areas when there is multiple feet of snow.  I still remember several snow storms in the UP were snow fall was measured in 3 to 5 feet range before drifting.   
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I believe those would be the proverbial flying pigs which go south for the winter.  Do not stand under flying flocks of feral pigs...

Seriously, I don't know the source of the data used to make that map.  It could be just anecdotal reports of pig sitings without an attempt to verify.  It is curious.  I wonder how many commercial pig farmers are in that area?  Could there be enough escapes to have become a feral problem?  Or perhaps they migrate down from Canada?

I do agree with the crop damage problem due to feral pigs.  I've seen what they do in Arkansas.  It required buried metal mesh fencing to slow them down.
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« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2017, 11:26:10 AM »
  I am not sure about flying fecal matter from flying pigs but around this area, I am amazed the thousands of geese who fly over daily aren't on bombing runs. What they do while on the ground is truly gross.
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« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2017, 11:35:32 AM »
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wild pigs in the UP of michigan and New Hampshire/vermont boarder?
hat one county in Far North Dakota?  Wooly Swine?

Probably Russian Boar escapees from hunting preserves like here.  The can and do interbreed with domestic pigs but get selected toward the Russian blood in the North.

If you see the big mama in the woods, you might think of climbing a tree. 

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